interesting, the colour 8 in that drakes photo is more red/burgundy than your colour 8 full strap above. The Aberdeen last wasnt available at the time. If any material could, certainly C8 cordovan could. Original Price USD 82.00 In my experience they do stretch. Hong Kong,Hong Kong Alden rare whiskey shell cordovan long wing blucher. Many thanks in advance! Yes, take me to the %redirect_store_name% Store. Anyways, the Alden Indy color 8 shell is often said to be super versatile. Looking forward to welcoming you to Atlanta one day. Dark Cognac is a deep, rich brown with lighter caramel-tones Can you apply normal cream (for calf leather)? Said that, better to compare with another pair of Goodyear Welted or dress shoes you have or have tried before. Acme Shoemaker Color 4 Shell Cordovan Split Toe Apron Toe Derby Shoe May 18, 2021 DEShellvidge shares his Acme Shoemaker color 4 shell cordovan split toe apron toe derby shoe which he cares for with Pure Polish Cleaner Conditioner and Brown Paste Wax Polish. Dark brown ,snuff suede or cordovan? I ask because I have a lovely pair of Alden boots on the Grant last, perfect fit. Yes youre right, those are the Kaans, I dont have any pictures of the Aldens. Topped with a soft, full natural veg tan leather lining throughout and french bound stitching around the outer edges. Thank you in advance. Mahogany Cordovan. Same on the eyelets. I know a lot of people size down half but 99% of the time, sizing down causes a length issue for my toes. All styles from the Hand Stitch Collection are available with a choice of natural gum, white or black soles, and inline with sustainability characteristics, they are fully resoleable at a later date if required. You will not be able to checkout on this store. Chili is the same color as Garnet. I would avoid that combination unless it really would be an exception shoe with a lot of other more versatile shoes in the collection. Sale Price USD 69.70 Are they much higher? Additional Details. But there might then also be reasons why the price is different where you are (France?) Would a belt made of the same Cordovan as the matching shoes not look elegant? Introducing the Harlestone Hand Stitch Sneaker. Problem is, too, that most people cant wait 12 years for the fit to be right! Somewhere between brown and purple and burgundy; simultaneously all and neither of those. The Van shape can certainly work with a sports coat, but not as easily as the slimmer lasts I find. And its a shade I prefer - you can see the difference in my Vass pair above. Dark Cognac Shell Cordovan Full Horween Shell Cordovan corner zip construction with two interior partitions. As its sister HOK last, the ROD is a voluminous last, featuring a wide ball tread, providing superior comfort to the wearer. Take full advantage of our site features by enabling JavaScript. Ravello, medium brown. Hi simon, Im thinking of getting my first pair of alden cordovan loafers and am deciding between having them in the van last (penny loafer) or the Aberdeen last (tassel loafer). I am also fearing they are already past their prime I have a deer bone, the Alden Cordovan polish, etc., but the upper fronts are wavy, and I dont see the patina improving over time. Key Case - Dark Cognac Shell Cordovan. Take care. When wearing premium leather from the world-famous Horween leather company in Chicago, USA, you go on a journey. I havent tried them in person, so its hard to say. Hey Simon! Finished with signature double stitch detail to the front and rear that provide added strength at pressure points, hand stitching is a traditional process that has been used throughout Northampton shoemaking history. Here is a partial list of current shell cordovan colors that Horween offers: Color #8; Black; Dark Cognac; Garnet Description This rich dark cognac strap is the go to strap for wearing with tool watches such as submariners and speedmasters, but also an excellent choice for gold cases especially dress watches such as an iconic reverso. Unfortunately its completely not what I expected in terms of fit. No comparison to Rendenbach soles. Navy. Have you seen this article on shoes with brown trousers? Thank you. All things being equal/subjective; would I look nicer in Shell Cordovan; or a regular leather dress boot? You can see that in these images with my Blackhorse Lane denim. Thank you! Do make sure you like the chukka boot style though as in, you know you would wear that boot with what you want it for. As for colour choice and material of the Alden loafer, what do you recommend? I would also concur that the break-in period is about on par with non-cord shoes. Fine with wider legs, perhaps some workwear-like chinos. Im curious to see how their loafers for example, compare to those by aldens. Thank you! (10% off), Keep collections to yourself or inspire other shoppers! Thanks! Turning off personalized advertising opts you out of these sales. Learn more in our Privacy Policy., Help Center, and Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy. When you login first time using a Social Login button, we collect your account public profile information shared by Social Login provider, based on your privacy settings. Cleverley made me some boots with cordovan around the bottom and a hatch grain calf at the top. I find this to be true. Size. But whether it was the best choice depends a lot on what you else you wear? Also the Cavendish is my first pair of Crocketts and Im now inclined for more. Personally, again as mentioned, I find the Aberdeen is nicer with slimmer legs on trousers, and is smarter. Production Notes Made in USA Machine Sewn #5 YKK Excella Zipper Horween Cordovan Pull-Tab Dark Cognac Horween Shell Cordovan Dimensions 4.125 3.25 0.5 I had these loafers for years but eventually the cordovan gave out at one of the ripples. Interested to hear any thoughts (from you or anyone), I wouldnt wear a cordovan belt probably, but I have a wonderful cordovan notebook, which has aged very well (here) and I like the T-style wallet in cordovan too. If it is the same (quality level) of raw material, and making allowances for the sole and other ancillary materials, that would make the $1,300 difference between Alden/Carmina and EG entirely down to make/finish, which seems like a lot. Due to the natural finishing processes used to create Lactae Hevea soles, there may sometimes be slight imperfections and colour differences from sole to sole. Michael, I wouldnt personally Michael. A classic and timeless menswear staple. Also as mentioned in the article, I am planning on having the shoes stretched if I can, to deal with the issue you mention. I think that your review was not that favourable but I think that they have a fantastic shape and combination of materials and sole. But I still dont quite understand your preference for Alden over Carmina on quality/value grounds. Yes, Ive seen that and it is a nice design. (20% off), Sale Price USD 87.00 boots better. I have had two very different experienced with Cordovan. Hate cramped toes. Was there something specific you were concerned about? Cordovan is, generally, easier to look after than calf. Simon I just received a pair of Alden Cordovan chukkas, do you recommend shoe trees for storage? I receive comments/compliments on these shoes (far more than others), typically from older gentlemen who tell me they have a similar pair and have worn it for decades. I belief you own shoes in both models. Im debating getting the same Crockett & Jones Cordovan Harvards that you have. Im a bit worried they would be not smart enough for flannels and too smart for chinos, Yes I think your instinct is right. Yes, Id say Alden is my preferred brand, though theres some discussion about pluses and minuses of them in the comments above. Hi Simon, Worth every short term pinch! Cordovan is made by shaving tanned horse rumps. Ive used Alden, but Id also recommend Yorkshire Sole I saw a friends repair their on Aldens and it was very good. Original Price USD 190.00 Your Aldens might look great with suits. As you say, a very subtle charm. But they do have particular ties to the US Northeast, just because they became popular there, and were worn more in that community. Given your helpful thoughts; Ill go w/ the Cordovan. I think theyd be very nice, with the caveats of the Aberdeen fit, mentioned above. Turning off personalized advertising opts you out of these sales. Learn more in our Privacy Policy., Help Center, and Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy. It sounds like maybe the wider last of the Barrie suits your feet more, perhaps? Im considering adding a loafer to my shoe collection to fill a gap. The cost is warranted considering the factors surrounding its production. The simplified pattern of the Derby Boot is a perfect combination with the unique grain and shine of Horween's Shell Cordovan. Just as fancy patinas have lost all charm, so cordovan has gained it. I understand Aldens LHS loafer is commonly done on the Van last. USD 87.00, USD 145.00 The ROD last features a casual round toe shape and a truly acommodating fit. Would you say the van or abeerden last is more suitable? It is intriguing to me. Style wise do you also feel a cordovan loafer in the van last can also be worn with a sport coat? Green. How do you get your Aldens resoled? I cant put my finger on exactly what makes these distinctly less formal than the Aldens, but theyre also one of Vibergs most formal offerings. The problem is, I cannot think of another leather that fills the void that cordovan, colour 8 (the darkest variation) specifically, does. Would you advise to work with black cream to darken it? Normally I would go 0.5 size up on oxford and derby last in EG. and here comes how people doing your job can leverage meaningful portion of business for certain sectorsin this case the clothing industry. However, as someone who would like to add a versatile loafer to my shoes collection, and who quite likes the Ivy style, it is difficult to find in France such a loafer shape. I think its more a question of whether you feel you do really need both colours for different looks you like. Quite different to what they looked like when new, but even more beutiful. Indeed, some readers thought they were black, when they saw, The colour is particularly appealing too. I do like the fact that its all eyelets and I like that in my boots. I dont really ever try to match shoes.and belts it risks looking too affected and matchy. Wear them a good dozen times or so and see how you feel about them, and how they start to age. [2] Thanks. That last is only more comfortable on most people because it is larger and so more forgiving. He will know how much cloth he uses for his shirts. Next time youre in NY it might be worth the 2 hour flight to Atlanta to visit Sid Mashburns flagship store here. I think black cordovan can wear well like that. Its a little hard to say on the value I think theyre both decent value for what you pay in the US, though Allen Edmonds isnt what it was. What would be your thoughts about cordovan colour 8 wholecut? Personally, no, I think brown works better though much more brown suede than leather. They were one of the best pieces of footwear I have ever worn; always smart and shiny in the the Cherry Black that you describe. I wear them with denim, with chinos, and at the most with flannels and knitwear. Check out our leather watch band 18mm shell selection for the very best in unique or custom, handmade pieces from our shops. My father and grandfather owned many pairs and Aldens wingtips and tassel loafers are a tradition amongst us here in New England. Oh, I remember that from your Stockholm article now that you mention it. Simon I like the cut on your Blackhorse Lane jeans could you advise as to which model you are wearing? Thanks Simon! Indeed, some readers thought they were black, when they saw the recent checks post that featured them. Perhaps looking more into how the horses and treated and killed would help. However,this is all part of the unique finish when using natural materials and theoverall precision and performance ofLactae Hevea sole unitswill never be compromised. I live in topsiders during the summer months and these also seem to have strong ties to the Northeastern United States. I have a pair of Cordovan shoes from Crockett and Jones, and theyre well constructed, but a more snug fit than Aldens. It is one of our most forgiving & comfortable lasts within our range. While most leathers are utilized and tanned to have the grain side (the side where the hair once was) out, shell cordovan is actually flesh out. I have had some of my old shells recrafted by a local cobbler who did excellent work until he retired last month. Most farmers have much greater respect for animals than non-farmers. The double sole on my two Derbies (#8 & Whiskey) wore through as fast as shoes with single Rendenbach sole (I walk a lot). And how many of the vegan alternatives are plastics that wont biodegrade. I totally agree that, with most non-designer shoes, you get what you pay for. Id certainly wear them with, for example, charcoal flannels, knitwear, and a raglan coat. But but they feel so uncomfortable around my toes. Am I alone therefore in finding it curious to see its use in loafers and often offered with leather soles? Do you mind telling if you have same size on Alden shoes on Barrie and Van last and are they the same width? However, just because a shoe works with lots of looks, it doesnt mean youre not losing something, and it is a little unusual as a colour so I can imagine not everyone will like it. Currently at 260, I feel like I cant really beat AEs quality at this price point. Im afraid I dont know any UK retailers of Aberdeen full strap loafers, either. Sellers looking to grow their business and reach more interested buyers can use Etsys advertising platform to promote their items. Thanks Quention. Im not. My Alden Norwegian bluchers feel substantially heavier than, say, calf Dovers from Edward Green. Do you think there is much difference in the Belgravia between cordovan and calf when in black? Is this your recommended maintenance for all shoes, or should calf leather sit in trees overnight before shining? Thanks! 2 more replies DesolationR0w 2 yr. ago That said, there is certainly a look with black loafers, which can be too easily dismissed if we just think of that as formal. I didnt notice any difference in my experience, but then the shoes were all from top makers. It sounds like they maybe havent had shoe trees in them all the time as well? Youve written a few times about the versatility of brown suede chukka boots. Acme Shoemaker Apron Toe . Color. I dont think this was covered in this thread, and apologies if it was! Im somewhat surprised that youve gotten over this aspect yourself and somewhat wish I could follow suit. Policies; Twitter Instagram It does look nice in the photos, Cordovan is nice, and it is more expensive, but its hard to say that youd get 500 more out of it in terms of value, Hi Simon, thank you for the post. , I think you might find cordovan more satisfying Brian, and easier to wear with jeans and slacks too, Thank you Simon. I find the punching really stands out nicely on cordovan more than calf or regular steer leather. One, I have a very wide foot, US EEE. No worries at all all comments are always welcome, on any vaguely related post. Two weeks ago I bought the same cordovan boots as you did at Gabucci store. To start with, both use Horweem cordovan. Yes thats right. Some people describe colour 8 as burgundy, but for me its much closer to a mix of purple and black. Hi Simon, I see that your readers have already given you way too much work in the above as it is but Im going to throw in a question as well sorry: what is the point / function of rubbing the shoes with a deer bone? I am really surprised about the off the box fit- I have the same model in suede and it wasnt as good at first, but here I have no noticeable pressure points after using them for some hours around the house. Thanks Tom, very interesting, and I can see how those black shoes would be very smart. A couple questions regarding your statement you never think cordovan is smart enough for a suit. Wheel Robe x Leather Healer 5-inch Cap Toe Boots Dark Cognac Horween Shell Cordovan - Worn once, like new condition Collaboration between: - Wheel Robe (Japan) - Leather Healer (Hong Kong) Special order - not available through Wheel Robe's RTW collection Original retail price: HK$8800 (~US$1134) Size: UK 8E / US 8.5-9 These are size 11 UK on the HOK last, Norvegese construction with a double row outer stitch, and come with an Itshide sole instead of Meermin rubber. It doesnt make much difference whether you brush shoes the same day or the next day. Thank you for the high quality of your columns. A fast brush will not only remove dirt, but the friction will build up heat that brings back oils and shine to the leather. Another wonderful post and excellent examples of how to style cordovan shoes. 2. P.S. Couldnt find anywhere in Uk. Theres a couple of nice ones on the Barrie Im eyeing. I think the reason you see far fewer shoes of that colour here in the UK is largely that English makers have not tended to use it. BTW: I totally get your preference of color 8 over black. The leathers do vary between pairs But otherwise no. Dark Cognac Horween Shell Cordovan Single Pass NATO, leather watch strap, Handmade CBailLeather (53) $104.00 FREE shipping More colors Full Horween Shell Cordovan Airtag and Moneyclip Wallet With Optional Key Fob Airtag Holder Avaiable In Multiple Colors Handmade in the USA LoFiLeathercraft (32) $25.00 FREE shipping All final purchase prices include delivery duty paid (DDP). I can see why youd say that, but I havent found it to be so. Id definitely go for the Alden tassel loafer, as that would add something genuinely different to what you already have. I have just one question: do we know whether any of the colours in the C&J cordovan range are in fact color no. Theyd also be handy in warmer weather, with the PS overshirt in dark brown, white tee and navy BHL chinos for example (you can clearly see me trying to justify them). I imagine there are more like it. I would say in terms of versatility. Orders within Europe:Prices shown include VAT. 18mm Shell Cordovan Watch Strap - Cognac - 130/80mm $ 221 $ 155-30%. Captcha failed to load. Ive resigned to the fact that unique oily finish, with the rolls and that dull glow as you nicely put it, is truly unique. The leather insole is a structural part of our shoes/boots, is where the Welt & uppers are stitched through the welting process, and so it cannot be removed. Its generally not possible to do much. USD 152.00, USD 190.00 Youre just more likely to remember to do it after youve worn them. I think those will look great. It is chunkier. Would you suggest not relying too much on the measurements like you advise with tailoring? General wisdom among Alden fans dictates that the Aberdeen fits true to (Brannock) size, and the Barrie is roomier all around, and can be worn a half size smaller. Our largest capacity wallet. I think you have one in suede. /ALDEN SHELL CORDOVAN Tassel Loafer: 41-41.5D /ALDEN for Brooks Brothers SHELL CORDOVAN Tassel Loafer /Alden 06599 Cognac Calfskin Tassel Loafer | Alden Model Project Leather: Horween Shell Cordovan #4, #8, Black, Bourbon, Dark Cognac, Midnight Blue. Simon's books and product collaborations are available to buy through the Permanent Style shop. Click on an image to enlarge. Simon, you mention your black cordovan loafer from E. Green and your relative lack of enthusiasm for it when compared with color 8. 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