Are you sure you are not missing a character in that HIN (hull identification number). Paddlesports participation is booming, driving the demand for outdoor equipment, whether its new or used. The following Mad River canoes have received the highest star ratings by reviewers in our Paddling Buyers Guide. Throughout the companys history, Mad River has introduced and phased out different canoe models. MadRiver was trying to compete against Sawyer and Wenonah in the western half of the Minnesota to Maine canoe market. Maine-based Old Town is one of Americas original canoe manufacturers. Congrats on your new boat! 3/4 . Youd also need to add a kneeling thwart or center seat so the weight would probably end up around same as the Camper. This gives the Journey and Explorer more secondary stability, which helps the canoe recover if its on its edge in more dynamic water. If you cant find a kevlar canoe you like, then buy a fiberglass one that is not too big. How would you spend your money for general use? The 16-foot Explorer is the flagship model, and Mad Rivers bestselling canoe. Plus, with the tractor seats, hard to solo unless you add a drop-in center seat. When looking at a used canoe, check the wooden gunwales for any signs of cracking or rot. They are now up on the MRC website under archived catalogs. 3/4 . Are we certain Airex was only used on kevlar or hybrid boats? Its green Royalex with wood gunnels, cane insert seats and is 16 feet long. When I redid the cane on a boat recently I used a kit from Ed's which is a bit pricey but worked great, the wedges were helpful. A UV-resistant coating provides additional sunprotection. Mad River Malecite, Bought 1994, used little, includes 2 wood paddles, mats, block for car top carrying. Discussion of all things WhiteWater Canoe related, Moderators: kenneth, sbroam, TheKrikkitWars, Mike W., Sir Adam, KNeal, PAC, adamin, Post Took some photos this AM but have yet to compare with the info shown in the '94 catalog provided to me by customer service. No wood rot. But youd want to make sure you had calm conditions for going onto the Wisconsin. No ribs however. It turns out the Sunrunner is a great b Using 16-foot canoes as a baseline to compare, you can see the weight differences. reserved. Ultimately I would. Sun bleached, 18' Mad River fiberglass canoe. At 61 lbs it falls oddly in between the listed weights for Fiberglass (67 lbs) and Kevlar (55 lbs). My wife loves the Camper because its initial stability is so good. These Mad River canoes are designed for recreational paddling and touring, and different material options land at differentprices. Mad Rivers prices range depending on the material used for the canoe and the model. Mad River - Freedom Canoe. He was selling to move to a kayak as his wife has MS and can no longer manage in the canoe. It's super gentleand that's what is on the Blackhawk in the pic. We bought it at Battenkill Canoe in Arlington Vermont in September of 1997. color: tan Beautiful work Micah! Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. I am going to put it all back together today so will send a "finished" photo out later. The MR and Wenonah are both good boats. Or did you mean the width of the boat from gunnel to gunnel where the seats are currently located? About 67lbsThe Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. Granted my HIIN states '94 but??? Best for leisurely excursions on smallish lakes and ponds, bad for whitewater CL. Like Mad River, they are extremely affordable. That is, if I intend to do so. 4/13 . Home run. by pblanc Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:51 pm, Post Does anybody know how to decipher mad river serial numbers? Mad River canoes are sold at independent outdoors stores and chains like REI. for sale. Also a Pathfinder which is 15 2" and looks well used - with cane seats that need replacement. You are using an out of date browser. On the underside of the bow deckplate is written the hull ID number so I would imagine these are original. Canoes hold their value exceptionally well. 12.5 inch deep center. There have been some great deals recently but always a day late. My number is MAD 14635F000. Fully featured and loaded with amenities, they're also very stable and paddle quite efficien. However waiting in their phone queue right now so maybe close to getting some answers?? 4/10 . Get Started. As of now not planning to do anything different with the seat hangers or frames as they are really tight. We are looking for general use mostly lake, pond or get onto the Wisconsin river flowage and paddle around and fish. Decked Canoes, Open Canoes, as long as they're canoes! We've reincarnated Jim Henry's original benchmark design, the standard for versatile performance, with the all new rugged and abuse ready T-formex material. Ive had a Bell Morningstar RX and its a great boat. The Pathfinder is $650. Based on your planned use however, Id guess its more boat than you need for two people doing day trips. Recently picked this beauty up for a song. Spring and fall are the best times to find those deals. No wood rot. I found an older mad river Kevlar 49 and I'm trying to figure out the actual model of the boat. My next question is with this boat in pretty much like new paddling shape what is it worth? These are reliable canoes for beginner and intermediate paddlers. It turns out the Sunrunner is a great boat for touring midwestern rivers and lakes. They were all nice boats, just never caught on out West. Thanks. It is a very high quality boat, built back in the day when Mad River Canoe was one of the premier composite canoe builders, if not the premier maker. With regular webbed seats the (symmetric) Camper can be paddled backwards from the bow seat for solo use. In those 6.5 days we logged 30 total portages for a total of 10,350M which is just shy of 6.5 miles with none of it being flat or easy. I did get some info from tech support in the form of a '94 catalog. I realize this thread is at least 4 years old, but I am a new comer to the forum who found this thread to be the closest thing to helping me decipher the serial number to a new/old canoe I just bought used. MadRiver was trying to compete against Sawyer and Wenonah in . We want to replace the original seats with ash/webbing seats as the cane is badly broken in both seats. 1) Anyone know where I could get the polypropylene, molded end caps, touch-up gellcoat, or even new-old-stock contoured seats?? That said Swift has a Burgandy color standard, and Hemlock makes an excellent tandem that can be Special ordered in whatever color you desire. You must log in or register to reply here. Explains the varnish-vs-oil question. Completely agreed that plastic end caps are hokey however very practical if this thing will be used as a tripper. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. MadRiver was trying to compete against Sawyer and Wenonah in the western half of the Minnesota to Maine canoe market. You might invest in a can of Watco Teak Oil since you can also use it on the rest of the wood although your wood trim does not look desperate for attention. Theyve been in business for more than 100 years, and today they tailor their canoes to recreational paddlers. Personally dont like to deal with the upkeep of wood gunwales, but some folks love the natural feel and enjoy the craft of maintaining them. The versatile canoe for getting started; great for sportsmen and families, the Adventure 16 is an amazing value. Much tougher than I was in my 20's but definitely not stronger. Has anybody ever seen a camo Kevlar boat? With that said and in regards to your comment Gumpus on the Watco taking forever to dry, everything is still quite tacky. 1991 based on the serial number. I would like to get my hands on the stock end caps to see how they fit in considering your water-trap concern. So in the end got the right canoe at a good price and hopefully helped the gentleman to move to a new boat that will be a better fit for his situation. Would a glass lay-up have a raised floor? Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. I load my canoes onto a 4-Runner and I think your FJ is the same height so it might be a challenge for you two and especially for you alone when you want to go solo. Mad River Canoe Replacement seats. Camper is a similar but better choice. Special Designed my Mad River founder Jim Henry, and built with a "Kevlar 49" layup, she is both strong and light at 65lbs. Swift Canoes made these for Mad River at their factory in South River, Ontario. It sounds silly, but a light boat gets used more And just looking at the specs of the sunrunner it sounds like a well handling boat. Try as she might, shes never gotten comfortable with the traditional tippy canoe feeling, despite my explaining why that can actually be a good thing. Around 1999 or 2000 the Coast Guard made Mad River change the way serial numbers were produced. The different materials match various price brackets, and their designs have lasted years because they work. Micah. the last three digits month and year of manufacture. About 67lbs. SmartMarineGuide New York, NY - All rights Any ideas what they are? Also note the paddle's edge which speaks to how little use this canoe had. Tracks beautifully No wood rot. Thanks. Figured this was good as anything even if the scale is off 5 lbs being the weight difference should be more-or-less accurate. If I could only pick from these five and based on how you intend to use it, Id lean toward the OT Camper. The Explorer and the Malecite were their most popular and versatile tandem models. Asking $700 for it. If you find a Mad River canoe not currently listed on its website, you can get more information about the model by looking through the companys archived catalogs. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe - $1,250 (fairfield) Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. I bet the scale lies to them too. The Sunrunner could handle any kind of weather. It has bench seats and a symmetrical hull so that solo or tandem paddlers can paddle the Journey. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. Recreational canoes are a great choice for new paddlers or those who value stability over speed. Malecite KL 1993-2001 Sunrunner FG 1994-1997 Malecite Special Edition 2001 Sunrunner KE 1994-1996. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best Offer Fiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. Canadian Customers - we currently ship parts to the Continental United States only - if you need a replacement part, please contact your local Mad River Canoe dealer who can order the part for you. Sunrunner. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. $887,744 hide. Given the information that the ID# of a kevlar boat should have a K also seems to point in the direction of fiberglass. Thanks for the suggestion on the seat trusses and also the link to Ed's Canoe. Being a pre-1985 model, the gunwales should also be squared off rather than radiused if they are stock. Find Mad River in Boats For Sale. Maybe you have insight on this? If the present era of supply chain delays and booming interest in paddlesports has taught us anything, its that used canoes are nearly impossible to find in the summer. In reality the thing is a bit too pretty for me to drag across beaver dams or portage through downfall. Thanks for the great help. Here, youll find all the Mad River canoes on the market, as well as canoes built by other companies. Boat includes a removable motor mount. The odd thing is the boat is camouflage from the factory. by sbroam Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:01 pm, Post Their heaviest boats are made from polyethylene, like the 85-pound Adventure 16. Make http://www.paddling.net/message/showThread.html?fid=advice&tid=929356 3/4 . Want to know more? It might stand for an Airex foam core hybrid but that is only a guess. The one I have is an Explorer Royalex with wood gunwales and deep red (chianti?) Also the hanger bolts are all bent just so as to make everything hang perfect & tight. There is room for it to be longer so maybe I will start with that and go from there. Soon to be floating on a river near you. Thanks so much gents for your input. I was surprised at the range of canoes available so was looking for some advice. I'll check out Ed's for the caning and some other wish list items. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. For day trips a 16 foot canoe is fine, maybe even 15 feet. Looking for discontinued models or older catalogs? Another document states that only the gunnels need to be oiled (as apposed to varnish) as they flex but further reading suggests Gunwale Guard be used on carry handles, decks, and seat spacers. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. The "Boats By Year" guide was made at least as late as 2011 so this could make sense. No wood rot. Best one on the list in my opinion. 3/4 . Here is another twistIn 94-96 the KV versions are listed at 55 lbs however in 97 it jumps to 59 which is just 2 lbs shy of what I measured. Have not looked yet. Rob, Mad River Serial NumberThanks for the responses. The Kevlar/Airex Explorer also had an outer layer of S 'glass under the gel coat which was nice. The announcement of the partnership was made at industry tradeshow Paddlesports Retailer last August in Oklahoma City. Canoe Mad River Explorer. Try (carefully) sitting in it while the canoe is resting on grass. Thats not hard and would cost a little over $100 for seats, seat drops and hardware. Manufactured mid 1990's17 feet 2 inch long, 33.5 inch gunwale width, 12.5 inch deep center, Bow/stern 19.5, 18.5, 1.75 inches of rocker. 2011. (all the Campers Ive seen had flat web or cane seats), OT Discovery 174 - tough and durable but too heavy. Mad River Canoe's Explorer 16 Length: 16 ft 3 in Width: 35 in Depth: 15 in Weight: 44 lbs Capacity: 1,100 lbs MSRP: $3,399 USD / $4,349 CAD madrivercanoe.com. Bell Morningstar, 15'6'', 40 pound canoe. In rough water a more rounded hull is better. The Sunrunner was one of a series of ~ 17' touring hulls Jim Henry designed in the 80s and 90s. id of old Mad river canoeI came for a similar reason trying to find the exact material of my MADEX135E787 Mad River canoes manufacturing location depends on the material. Different materials match different needs, and Mad River makes the Explorer in T-Formex, Kevlar Fusion or Carbon. Also, FYI I just sent Confluence scans of my 1976 and 1977 MRC catalogs which I recently located. I tried to add a picture but it says the file is too big. Best, No wood rot.17 feet 2 inch long, 33.5 inch gunwale width, 12.5 inch deep center, Bowstern 19.5, 18.5, 1.75 inches of rocker. Best, Thank you! Im tempted to pop over from SW Michigan to buy it just on principle. The boat is 16 long. Tomorrow I will pick up a different scale & hopefully put this to rest. So Camper is perfect for ponds and small lakes and for fishing solo. MadRiver was trying to compete against Sawyer and Wenonah in the western half of the Minnesota to Maine canoe market. You should buy the other boat too. Manufactured mid 1990's. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. This route seems most consistent with original. Based on the specs that Mike provided it relatively narrow and as a "stretched Malecite" your planned load is idealthe boat will be fast, maneuverable, and lightly loaded. We operate 7 days a week fro My little Blackhawk tandem performs well even against modern hulls and I think your boat would just run away from my Blackhawk. No wood rot. Hey Micah, I suggest that you put some oil on the cane seats immediately. Its best if the canoe has been kept inside, or at the very least, away from direct sunlight. Introducing the new Explorer 16. 3/8 . Mad River Model Produced Sunrunner KH 1996-1997 Sunrunner KL 1994 Synergy RX 1996-2000 You can find some information about discontinued Mad River canoe models on their website. JavaScript is disabled. With similarly nice weather the last few days I am really starting. The Explorer and the Malecite were their most popular and versatile tandem models. Only the SR921 is not strictly defined by the coast guard. You must log in or register to reply here. Thank you for the comments. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe Asking 1250.00 Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. Looking for a tandem canoe for a couple in our mid-fifties. Your boat looks like new or maybe better. pelicanmy last numbers on my pelican kayak is j809 does that mean it was made in august 2009? The winters are long here and the state owes me a property tax refund so??? columbia, MO. Seems weird that it costs $24 when he will sell you a brand new cane seat with frame for $28 but I liked the idea of keeping the factory seat frame on my solo boat. Its a model thats well suited for a specific niche, but that seems to be your niche. In 95 they list the 44 lb Kevlar version as a "Kevlar PVC" but then in 96 the 44 pounder is listed as "Kevlar Lightwt". That matters in your situation, more than the seats, gunwales, or design of the canoe. Does anyone know if I could use a heat gun (oh-so-carefully) to remove the remaining license sticker from the bow? That said, if you spot a good condition, reasonably priced Wenona Aurora or Mad River Malecite (especially in kevlar), Id favor those two over the five you listed. 1) The FC (Fiberglass Cloth) build does not show the floor being painted with "Protective Surface Paint" like all three of the Kevlar builds do. Wood trim likely needs some work with previous repairs showing up. Don't know of any manufacturer who uses a k for kevlar. Learn more about Mad River canoes by checking out the reviews below. sounds like leisurely day trips are the intended use, boat weight can be a factor as we get older. If its lightly used as the ad says then its a great deal. Your boat is stunning and you must be right about the ash as I paid attention to the weight of the yoke yesterday and too light to be oak. At a minimum, pick the canoe up, and see how it feels to portage it. It turns out the Sunrunner is a great boat for touring midwestern rivers and lakes. If Im reading this right could this be the 9th production model of the first Kevlar Canoes commercially made? Archived Catalogs. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17`2 touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. Excellent condition. How about personality? Since used on gunwales this product must've been an oil so my guess is the seat spacers have just weathered differently than the seat frames, yoke, & thwart as the FAQ states those items were spar varnished. However in doing the best I could given two household scales, I am coming up with about 61 lbs. id old mad riverMAD99584M80G-K 18 foot wicker seats with backs. Wenona Sundowner is a nice model from a respected brand. The Pathfinder is likely pretty old. I bought it in '02. no favorites. The Adventures are express tickets to the enjoyment of canoeing. Enjoy Dave Yost designed boats are a joy to paddle. A company representative reports that they hope to start making canoes again in 2023. color obviously not a factor in performance, but if the wife likes it, its certainly a plus I agree that you want as light a boat as you can get to make it easy to use. It would not be a great solo boat because its so big for one person. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. Canoes finished with wooden gunwales look great and are lighter than typical aluminum or vinyl combinations. account. Hi Rob, My Mad River Canoe serial # is MAD AX988G798. I tried contacting MRC but havent gotten a reply yet (2 Weeks). / 431 kg Width: @Gunwale: 33" / 84 cm @4" Waterline: 34.25" / 87 cm Maximum: 37" / 94 cm Depth: @Center: 14.25" / 36 cm I don't blame you a bit for going after that other boat since it looks to be a fine boat at a great price. For a 10-day trip we carried about 310 lbs of flesh, 35 lb food pack, 45 lb gear pack (which could loose 10 lbs if I can convince myself to leave our rubber boots at home) and a 20 lb backpack with fishing gear, med kit, raingear, etc. If Im reading this right, youre looking for: tandem canoe also usable as occasional solo to fish, mostly lake and pond, no whitewater, no camping. If I again come up with 60 lbs then who knows. The shallowness also a bit of a concern as we really enjoy some of the bigger waters in Quetico. Shallow vee hulls have a unique feel in the water and they typically carve turns very gracefully. Its an all-around canoe, suited for most uses. Any help would be greatly appreciated. T-Formex is a stiff, durable material. 17 ft Mad River Malecite double canoe (4 seats). Serial # info requestI recently found a Mad River Independence, from what I can make out the serial # is MAD1D2771293. abwoolsey June 20, 2020, 10:45pm #13. Prolonged UV exposure can cause canoes to warp or deform (thats not a reason to not paddle them on sunny days, however). Canoe Mad River Explorer. Use the filters below to view the canoes by type, material, size or store. Essential information like specifications, prices and places to buy them is displayed in a standard format, so you dont need to jump from one website to another. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Edscanoe.com is a good source. It consists of three distinct layers. I am really looking for the same age Explorer in the same deep red color or other non red (cherry) or standard green. The tradeoff is that it does not maneuver as readily. The Serial number is: VTB6009 OM73K Is Watco considered an oil? The Journey 156 is a design thats at home wherever you paddle, offering a blend of sophistication and durability. . I am looking for some of the old fiberglass long decks. 2) The floor just seems to have a "bubble" just like the foam core Kevlar builds show. Does that make it a duck hunter? The '94 catalog speaks of them being available for the kevlar and fiberglass boats so I am thinking they would be form-fit to some degree?? by pblanc Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:43 pm, Post 3/4 . This canoe has provenitself time and again on trips I have taken in canada, maine, n.h. vt. People upgrading or cleaning out a garage may just be trying to get rid of the boat rather than recoup much money. Will probably get this thing detailed out and seaworthy this winter and sell it. The kevlar PVC version was sometimes billed as Kevlar H (for Hybrid). Am also going to put out the feelers for more MR boats of this vintage in hopes of scoring another as MN is a good place for this and I have an untapped, affluent source in mind. heres a thead from the archives: For whatever it's worth figured I'd better clear this up as to not to calculate this all out under false premise. Drove the 2 and half hours and picked it up. We are a canoe and kayak livery on the Mad River, in Springfield, Ohio. Mad River Sunrunner - Kevlar with cane seats and wood gunwales and is a 1998. Could the raised floor be something other than Airex? I am curious about the "A" appended to the end of the HIN. I've got a Kevlar Explorer - there is a KA suffix on mine and it does have the Airex foam layers, which reinforces that idea. No wood rot. I just found one error in the "Boats By Year" PDF as it states the only KL Sunrunner was in '94 however all catalogs (94-97) list the KL version. and the Old Town Camper - 15 and 36" wide - the only photo in the ad, Im sure youll receive several opinions on these models and Im happy to add my two cents. Does that mean it is a 1993? You probably have access to a number of other brands there in WI, but these brands you listed are some of the most common across the country (aside from Coleman and Pelican, which I wouldnt recommend for you), so youre likely to get good feedback. Wenonah - Sundowner - 18 foot fiberglass (red) and looks to have an adjustable front seat. 68 lbsMust be glass. Use the part # shown in the schematic to locate the correct part. Mine are really beat up, so the boat is without any decks right now. 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