Location. So I think that a lot of people made their best work when they were hungry 'cause they had to. And he, being the leader of the band, had to do most of the work around it. So you pick a really good time, when everybody's sober, when you've got everyone's attention, and usually you preface it with a lot of love and caring, or a desire to see a full life with them. 82.4 KB Views: 214. Im really proud of the legacy. Otherwise it can becomeit's just fetishism, it's just "This is my personal fantasy"of what everyone will love. There are so many records out there now that it's harder to stand out.Yeah, right, it's like, everybody's super-talented and everybody's a genius and everybody's signed, and I don't care! I didnt want to find out anything that would compromise the mans dignity, Zanes said. Pick up the May 2008 issue of Modern Drummer at music stores, book stores, and newsstands everywhere! But I havent seen him again since then.. So we're even! There was a lot of miscommunication and many immature sh*ts going down. The other night I looked down during that song and there was a woman in the front just sobbing, says Campbell. It was still like.this is incredible, I don't want to die here, this is great! Tons of them. But we had a quiet moment at the rehearsals. So I'd say on the way to success: doubt. Stephen Lynch Science & Engineering Assoc, Chemistry. Joined Jun 3, 2013 Messages 1,601 Reaction score For Zanes, the tour should have been heaven on earth. Basically, youre witnessing the birth of the Traveling Wilburys. But he said, Its your book. If I had a record label, I'd sign him. Again, in his own way. Christ, you're kidding! This is the birth of the Wilburys. In other words, he won't shut up! Double Platinum Supporting Member. Hes a rock and roller. Stan Lynch, the band's longtime drummer, who eventually quit in 1994, is unsurprisingly the most critical of Petty. Id need you to play a leg of the tour. I don't think I have ever watched a drummer being interviewed that was so relatable. Because the problem is when you're young, it's make or break. It's like, Mick needs Keith. His feel somehow combines the loose gallop of great classic rock'n'roll with the unrelenting tension of barely contained energy. So that was the perspective I had immediately. And on the far end of success: not having that doubt, taking yourself so seriously that you refuse to even believe that there's a chink in your armor and that you're real. I learn from them.. I don't know, I can only speak from my own experience. Very cool @DanRH. And at the end of 20 minutes, if you tell me to leave, I will leave. Stan Lynch Net Worth. Id hear that he was auditioning for another group. I didnt need to be that way. It's great when you actually find somebody that doesn't hear music the way you do and you start to love them for it. That happens when the pain becomes too much and you live in a world, in a culture, where people have reached in the direction of heroin to stop the pain. His last words to me where, I heard you, man. Stan did everything he could to get fired, Petty said. I grabbed him and told him what I needed to tell him. 2023 Cond Nast. But it must be more difficult for the person who's been successful for a long time on their own terms, and then all of a sudden something fails.Yeah, you don't sell records. To revisit this article, select My Account, thenView saved stories, To revisit this article, visit My Profile, then View saved stories. For now, though, this feature on one of rocks most tasteful timekeepersa true player of the songwill do, for theres plenty to discuss with Lynch. Stan Lynch joined Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers in 1974 when Petty's piano player Benmont Tench recruited him. So I think that if you're flat, if you've hit a point where you just don't know where the hell to turn, that's usually somebody's way of saying, "Man, you need a bro.". I dont know how thats going to feel. It has a special vibe when its just the two of you. And so we started closing the show with it. He is from OH. Stan had never heard me sing before, and he was the main harmony singer with Tom. In a world of headlines, this is going to be a big one. Plus: each Wednesday, exclusively for subscribers, the best books of the week. A fun chat with my old friend and original drummer with Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers, the great Stan Lynch. The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Cond Nast. Lets get right to this. The musician revealed that he wishes he had handled the situation in the band in a more proper way regarding his departure. It was like, "Well that'sinteresting Stan, what are you gonna do to support yourself?" And I want to contribute whatever they'll let me contribute, and I want to learn what they'll let me learn. I didnt need to be that way. I just couldnt. I watched really depressing people get more depressed. I interviewed Stan for Vintage Drums Magazine (a now defunct British publication) in 2018 and we got deep into his gear for Damn The Torpedoes. Also: recaps of my international speaking engagements and pop culture oral histories featuring beloved figures of books, music, TV, and movies who rarely if ever have been interviewed. Sometimes I would hear stuff and it was just so sad. [laughter]. I mean, some guys bat .310 one year and then the next year they bat .145. Man, we used to have a joke in the first band I was in, which was: lower your goals and succeed! I would sayyou have a lot of energy, young man! I had a kit in my house, and I had to take it away. Come and get it!" Most people collaborate, and sometimes I've been in collaborations where the person is basically just using me as a sounding board, and that's all that's required. Paper, rock, scissors!". I tried being late to rehearsals like everybody elseI tried to act disinterestedbut it all backfired on me! And so I have regrets, but they dont hold me back. A lot of people in this business seem to forget why they wanted to be there in the first place, their values really change a lot. Among his more pointed criticisms concern the song Stop Draggin My Heart Around, which Petty did with Stevie Nicks. If you're in it to make as much money as possible, that's a question you would really have to consider. But you know, no matter how much shit I give any of those guys or they can give me, there were some great lessons learned in how to grow up with people. Lynch isn't looking for the spotlight anymore, though, according to his interview last week. Heres why hes finally talking about it. Stan and I had some personal conflicts with family here and there, he says. And at the beginning of that second day, it began with Stan asking, Do you mind if I lie on the couch. I was lucky enough to be the guy taping it when he let a lot of that stuff out. Not all artists understand that. With $100 in his pocket, Stan Lynch drove his dad's VW bus from Florida across country to L.A. in 1974. I have real hills and valleys; I know it's hard to get along with guys like me sometimes too. Photograph by Richard E. Aaron/Redferns/Getty. I wouldnt want to let anyone down, says Lynch. By submitting, you agree to receive communications (emails & texts) from Modern Drummer. My shot out was that I was gonna be a rock drummer! 2023 Rolling Stone, LLC. But the fact that these guys hung out with me for so fuckin' long is like - oh my God! Lets do some more. When Tom Petty was asked to describe original Heartbreakers drummer Stan Lynch in the 2005 book Conversations With Tom Petty, the bandleader responded with, "Stan. But one of you is gonna change, because you can't coexist in those two different universes. LikeEverclear - Art Alexakis is talented! Rolling Stone is a part of Penske Media Corporation. 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And he said, This is really good. He sounded just like Tom Petty when he said it. Books: * Bill the Boy Wonder: The Secret Co-Creator of Batman (nonfiction picture book); illustrated by Ty Templeton . Ive seen enough that I know that I dont need to see much more Bigger isnt better.. Youll know it when you know it. Sure enough, we went back to the studio and we got two tracks that night. Warren became vice-president of educational programs for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. To that end, Stan opens up the treasure trove, eager to share his secrets for maintaining vitality and integrity in a business that can easily rob the unsuspecting of both. It's usually somebody that has the seed of an idea that he's gonna protect. As a fan, I have to grumble that Pettys never been given quite the same level of respect as, say, Bruce Springsteen. I mean, to me the most rock'n'roll thing you can do is not give a shit! He didnt ever get a trampoline out and do a backflip. I was very grateful. I felt like all of the uniforms and emotional and metaphysical stuff about being a drummer, Id sort of outgrown. Very few go forever, you know. So Denny, in that perfect English accent, he blows a big cloud of smoke and says, Stan, if you leave all that shit behind and just play the groove, theyll always misinterpret you as tasteful. That was brilliant. He ended up recording harmonies on the bands Warner Brothers dbut album, and he brought the Del Fuegos with him on tour. I park and go to the lounge outside his studio. It wasn't that I was gonna be a professor or a model or a car driver or a brilliant architect. How deep into your hole of shit do you need to go? When he gets married, its the same thing. He told me the story of a marriage that wasnt working, but hes was trying as hard as he could to keep it together. Heres the important point. I think I have some Tom nuances in my voice. Therefore I should do a duet with N'Sync!" And I think to try to predict what a group of people will buy is sad and frightening [laughs]. . Last week, Stan Lynch was interviewed atthe Matheson Museum in Gainesville, Florida. ', But when he went to speak, he found himself tentatively agreeing to the plan. Longtime Petty manager Tony Dimitriades fired Lynch on the phone shortly after the show, and the drummer didnt say a word to Petty until the group was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2002. We want to hear it. Now, what records should I produce that will sell to them?" And it hasn't taken me very seriously. But it got untenable. They get busy trying to control the story. Stan talks about his years with Tom Petty & The . And I interpret that in any way I can: that means spiritually, financially, they know the rudiments, they know their scalesthey've done their homework! I was feeling very insecure about them. Don Henley Called Stan Lynch As He Wanted To Record His New Album Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers drummer and famous record producer Stan Lynch has worked with various bands and musicians, such as the Eagles, the Byrds, Bob Dylan, Stevie Nicks, and many more. Oh yeah, that one never changed. I'm not on Mount Rushmore and I don't think I should be! During his tenure as a Heartbreaker, Lynch became intimately familiar with both the ups and the downs of working in a rock band. What do you do when you lose inspiration for a period of time? It's very incredible. I favor Petty. Also, I could never really close doors on people that were important in my past. Send us a tip using our anonymous form. You know, I probably squandered a lot of good time. Attachments. Zanes spoke by telephone about Petty.. I'm very comfortable with it. We got together and played at that and talked and were friendly, Petty said in 2007. But usually, in all of those great bands, there's a lot of creative contribution by all of the musicians. Highlights from the week in culture, every Saturday. And it reverberated for years, some people never got over it. We talked about how you deal with the external circumstances changing, but what about internally? Thats a long run to have someone in your life one way or another., Campbell sent over the two recent albums he released with his longtime backing band the Dirty Knobs, 2020s Wreckless Abandon and 2022s External Combustion, and told him to learn the songs. This was unsettling for everyone in the group besides Campbell, who worked extensively on the album, but Lynch voiced his objections the loudest. I havent been a drummer since I was in my thirties. Within twenty-four hours, I was talking to Don and he said, Man, what are you doing? So, you have to be prepared to live with that as a self-employed musician, you have to be prepared to suffer that. I think he was invested in being caught in that cycle in part because there was so much movement in it all that the trouble from his past was kept at bay. By signing up, you agree to our User Agreement and Privacy Policy & Cookie Statement. But this is against everything I stand for, and I can't let you die in front of me.". Your contract. That was probably part of the charm was that I didn't know, and I think the very thing that used to be charming became a burden to [the Heartbreakers]. Right now, Campbell and the Dirty Knobs are on a brief break before returning to the road in late May for another long string of shows that includes stints opening for Chris Stapleton and the Who at arenas and even a few stadiums. Just go! I was wearing this brocade jacket and had long, bushy blonde hair. [laughs] And it's really nice when you hear somebody in the room, even if you're not sure whether they're better than you or worse than you, but it's something you wouldn't do! And I think among American rock-and-roll bands, theyre the very best. [laughter]. Huh? The list goes on, but this'll get you started! The next incarnation. Lynch talked to Zanes for two days straight about his long years of having to prove that he was the right drummer. I have regrets. It became like, "Well that's pretty stupid that he's not acknowledging this." And theres plenty more as Zanes, granted full access, reports on the creation of not just Pettys biggest records, Damn the Torpedoes, and Full Moon Fever, but his less appreciated gems, including 1999s Echo. Zanes is more than a fan: In 1987, his band, the Del Fuegos, opened gigs for their hero. The tension that followed played a significant role in his ultimate departure from the band. It made a big difference for me, and I believe my participation made a huge difference for them., Lynch has stayed on good terms with Heartbreakers keyboardist Benmont Tench during the past 30 years, and the drummer is very open to the idea of one day playing with all the surviving members of the group in some capacity. Last night, after a day of interviews, he sat alone in his hotel room, pensive and moody, until sunrise. [laughter] I mean, I know that. And in five minutes or so, Tom Petty comes out. In retrospect, I look back at that scene, in that office, and I think that maybe its the happiest Ive seen Tom Petty by looking at his face. Work. He hopes hell get another chance to play with Campbell in the future, but he says hes ready for whatever happens. For puttin' up with that - God bless 'em! Don't even mourn it when it goes; don't cry about it, if it explodes, let it go, just go "What a great moment!" Its because hes trying to succeed at something that his own family failed at, sometimes dramatically. As a drummer, he's all about paradox and contrast: an irresistible blending of Charlie Watts' solid understatement with John Bonham's raw go-for-the-throat power, either of which might turn and rear its head within a single verse. I get it. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Print Profile Email Profile View Stanford-only Profile Tab Menu . Show Reviews. I thought we were going out there to draw blood! There are a lot of producers and labels that actually do that.I'm sure they do! . I can't worry about that - it would be so pathetic! Jimmy Iovine is known to have obsessed over the drum sound in Pettys 1979 album Damn the Torpedos, which Iovine produced, and Lynch became the object of his frustration. It never felt that strange. And he hasnt ever spoken about this before.The first thing he said to me on the subject is I am very concerned that talking about this is putting a bad example out there for young people. We never even tried one of my songs., When the tour ended, Zanes left the band and went back to New England, drifted around, and ended up in New Orleans, where he became a bike mechanic. [laughter] And the trick is to stay out of your own way, and to stay out of everybody else's way. Jeff [Lynne] is a constructionist from the Brian. I never knew how it got there, but it sure wasnt left over from the night before. We have the same musical pulse we always had, says Campbell. And that's why I smile, usually, 'cause I realize I was given the.the troll said you can pass! having this conversation," he said in a 2003 interview with Newsweek. And there was always great coffee. A lot of the times Id just be focused on what I was doing, but then Id turn around and be like, My God, its Lynch and hes fuckin smoking it! Which is great, I mean, that means you certainly don't have to compromise! "Oh! One day, Pettys manager, Tony Dimitriades, called Zanes out of the blue and said that Tom had read Dusty in Memphis and wanted to have dinner the next time Warren was in L.A. For Zanes, who had a new baby at home in Cleveland, It was all I could do not to leave right then. When they did meet, Petty said that the Dusty book had inspired a song, and that he wanted Zanes to come to his house to hear it. I told my editor about Pettys heroin addiction in the 90s. I kneeled down, took her hand, and I went, Its going to be OK. I think its a bit of healing and closure for people to revisit that feeling and revisit Tom in a positive way., Playing Pettys music night after night has also given Lynch the opportunity to grieve for his friend. 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