He has managed multiple gun ranges, and has hunted around the world. The standard (.30-06) length .264 Winchester Belted Magnum has always been considered overbore and a barrel burner and the recent (2014) .26 Nosler, based on a Remington Ultra Mag case shortened to .30-06 length and necked-down, has greater case capacity (approximately 96 grains of water) than the .264. Joseph Von Benedikt visits with Aaron Oelger from Hodgdon about the unprecedented demand on the shooting supply industry. 62x51 20 barrel 30-06 springfield 300 prc (new) 30-378 weatherby 300 h&h magnum 300 remington short action utlra mag 300 norma magnum (new) 300 winchester magnum (new) 300 wsm 300 weatherby . Mag. border-style: solid; Please opine on this for me guys as I have always been a 30 cal slut. Coyote Hunter - NRA Patriot Life, NRA Whittington Center Life, GOA, DAD - and I VOTE! Dang thing just didn't understand he was dead and heavy brush was all around him. The 26 Nosler probably will kill the 264 if the 6.5 - 300 Weatherby doesn't Mac Those who prefer the traditional cartridges are having a difficult time seeing their favorite cartridges being over shadowed by the 6.5. which is why they attack it. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I think the Barnes is worth a try. Alas, Remington and its new-in-1962 7mm Remington Magnum dealt a resounding deathblow to the .264 Win. Please email us if you have questions about any of our product listings. Velocity is 3,300fps. Tapered Copper-Alloy Jacket For lethal penetration and uniform expansion with maximum weight-retention and minimal barrel fouling. 300 WIN MAG ammo; 243 Winchester Ammo; 7mm-08 Ammo; 6mm CREEDMOOR Ammo; 38 Special Ammo; 22-250 Remington; 5.7X28 AMMO; . In this case, we have assumed the average muzzle energy for a .264 Winchester Magnum round is approximately 2770 foot-pounds. Still have my Rem 700 264 ( 23 1/2" stainless Bbl. ) The Swede is popular with pragmatic traditionalists, but, like the 6.5-284 Norma, suffers from minimal ammo options plus relatively throttled velocities. Maybe not the ideal caliber but if you're good with the rifle it'll do the job. Joined: Dec 2004. text-align: center; Learn to listen to your gut and understand your abilities. The 140-grain projectile is fairly streamlined, providing acceptable aerodynamics, and it has a protected tip (meaning only a bit of exposed lead, a tiny flat meplat where the bullet initiates negotiations with its target). I haven't been able to get my hands on any of the ProGrade ammunition yet, but all three options (120-grain Barnes TTSX; 125-grain Nosler Partition, and 140-grain Nosler AccuBond) look good, especially if the company pushes them to the .264's full velocity potential. It is still the fastest, flattest light-medium bore available. 2 Voll konische Kupferlegierungsjacke . Here we have leaned conservative by taking the average weight of a male individual of the species, since females generally weigh less and require less stopping power. overflow: hidden; If you hunt elk in grizzly-infested country, a rifle chambered in .338 is comforting. Youre also not going to shoot as well on a moving animal. (Of course, it costs more, too.) .270 Win. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Yes. tax. Nosler decided to start loading its own headstamped ammo, and its first offering was the successful 26 Nosler, itself a screamer of a cartridge. Be intentional and smart with each shot. I realize I'd gain some recoil pain in that light rifle, but I'd expect it to be similar to my .280 lobbing heavier pills on its top end. background-color: #efefef; I shot a Canadian whitetail last fall using the same load. That performance level is my personal minimum on elk. might produce recoil similar to a 9.5-pound .338 Lapua Mag. To answer the question completely, we would need to evaluate the downrange distance to the elk, the bullet type, the grain weight of the bullet, the physical condition of the firearm, the size of the elk in question, the shot placement, the local wind conditions, the expected accuracy of the shooter, the ethics of the ideal maximum number of shots the list goes on. They were hollowpoint varmint bullets! My 8mm Remington Magnum was stocked in dense walnut and had a long barrel. For example, most of the all-copper expanding bullets need something like 1,900 0r 2,000 fps to expand even a little. If dinosaurs once again roam the Earth, there might in fact be a real need for this cartridge. Though not quite as aerodynamic in shape, and sporting a good bit of exposed lead at the nose, impact result on deer-size game is typically spectacular. It should be a great gun. We never have enough guns! Just $1 per month , Find a tough cartridge for one of the most prizedand toughestbig game animals around, We may earn revenue from the products available on this page and participate in affiliate programs. Attacking the 264 shows just how much popularity it is gaining. c&c with a 308 or 06, bullet will do the job what makes anyone think a 140 gr. Mag. It will break heavy bone, penetrate deep and straight, and kill quickly and cleanly. The .264 mag & 6.5's in general are gaining in popularity rapidly. bullet (especially in premium) in 6.5 won't? Also, Norma and Woodleigh offer a few bullets in the 150s to 160 with decent BCs (no round nose). (Ret.) Use 0.199" for length of plastic tip. To get longer barrel life, then just nitride it and hammer away. Excl. Hunting is supposed to be fun and if that is your idea of fun, you could probably have even more of it with a .378 Weatherby. . Do be aware that some magnum 6.5 shooters are reporting extreme copper fouling with . Today, many outstanding component bullets and suitable propellants are available for loading the .264 Win. That would be one to try on a .264 Win. .tg { Mag. Federal Factory Load: 130-grain Nosler AccuBond (BC: 0.432) at 3,060 fps, 7mm Rem. Texas. For that, the Bergers are perfect. developed a reputation as a wounder because ammo companies and handloaders were stoking it with light, thin-jacketed projectiles meant for 757 Mauser speeds. Welcome to LRH and enjoy! For the distances your going to be shooting at elk any sacrifice in bc's will be minimal. Heres a link to it. This unsung cartridge is awesome for a light, short-barreled, all-around elk rifle. If you want to max things out, you need a bullet that will expand at lower velocities. The data in the following table contains averages for each cartridge. The shot was just behind the front leg. I've never heard anything bad about this caliber either. The next day the same rifle took a 5x5 bull at 400 yds with ease. Introduced as late as 1963 this cartridge was soon to become the most popular in the line of .300 magnums. My gun is twisted 1:8. Want the best cartridge for elk hunting? It is based on a necked-down .338 Winchester Magnum case and uses a .264 caliber bullet, making it an ideal choice for those seeking accuracy and performance at extended shooting distances. vertical-align: top What does this mean? Only recovered bits and pieces of the bullet, no exit hole. When you get to kill ( notice I did not say ", i like your style (and agree with your conclusions) CR. Yes - historically. Our website lists special deals on 9mm Ammo, 10mm Ammo, 45-70 Ammo, 6.5 Creedmoor ammo, 300 Blackout Ammo, 10mm Ammo, 5.56 Ammo, Underwood Ammo, Buffalo Bore Ammo and more special deals on bulk ammo. Or wait and hope it stops for a few seconds. Loaded with a 130gr Spitzer AccuBond Bullet and Nosler Premium Brass. I would not even consider the 156 Berger with a 1:9" twist. Depending on bullet type and construction, the minimum expansion velocity for rifles falls between about 1300 and 2000 fps. Caliber: 7mm Remington Magnum. I have a .264, an original M70 with the 26" stainless barrel. Just like shooting near dawn or dusk, or shooting into a glare. For 125 years 6.5's have been taking all manner of game world wide including moose in Scandinavia. If the demand were not there it would not be produced. font-size: 18px; When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Disclaimer: the information above is purely for illustrative purposes and should not be taken as permission to use a particular caliber, a statement of the legality or safety of using certain calibers, or legal advice in any way. As far as I'm aware, only Winchester Repeating Arms and Shaw Precision Guns (a division of E.R. As an owner of a .264 Winchester Magnum, Craig Boddington's article on using a .264 Winchester Magnum in Africa was interesting. Behind the Bullet: .264 Winchester Magnum. Distance, of course, plays an important role in the viability of a given caliber in elk hunting. This list of the best cartridges for elk hunting starts with the welterweights and moves up to the heavy hitters. Win. As such it has a legitimate but rather overlooked place in the modern hunting realm. .tg .tg-xhut { It will drive this 120gr TSX bullet completely thru an elk even at an acute angle. The .264 is s great all-around for most big game animals in North America. Zero333 Aug 12, 2020 #12 Laguna Freak said: The 264 win mag has sufficent power for elk but am not familiar with the hunting properties of the Berger bullets. However, it doesnt handle projectiles heavier than 180 grains as well as other magnums. But with this 156 load at elk hunting elevation here in Wyoming, it retains 1500 ft-lbs out to 1175+ yards, and the elk we have taken in the lase several years have ranged from the closest at 500 yds, to the farthest at 910 yds. They'd rather see a hunter show up in camp with a .270 he can shoot lights out than a large belted magnum he can't. Behind the Bullet: .264 Winchester Magnum "So much of this business of hunting turkeys, you stupid it up right at the last. The Fling knives are styled after traditional throwing knives and perfect for backyard competitions. The 7mm Remington Magnum will send a 160-grain bulleta good all-around choice for nearly all North American gameat 3000 fps. But dont try to punch a raking shot through a bulls hipit doesnt have the juice for that. Of course those stories exist, and they are not disputed here. The 270 Winchester, 270 WSM, 7WSM and 7mm Rem. Youtube is full of those videos. Its the finest all-around cartridge available for youth, women, and new shooters. Pair it with an accurate 180-grain bullet and hunt confidently, knowing that your rifle is adequate for any reasonable scenario. Winchester advertised the .264 Winchester Magnum (note the Imperial bore measurement) as driving a 140-grain spitzer bullet at a muzzle velocity of 3200 fps; this gives quite the flat trajectory and will handle almost all North American big-game animals, though I'd certainly want more bullet weight for the big bears, bison and even Alaskan moose. factory load in every category. Mag., and does so out of shorter barrels. Joseph Von Benedikt is with Jorge Spat to learn all about it. padding: 10px 5px; I would like to try Barnes TSX, but the heaviest 6.5 is 130 grains. I would work up a load with 45 bullets shooting them save 5 for hunting and take a box of your 125gr Partiton's as back up and go hunting. While Im generally not a fan of short magnum cartridges, this one has proven itself a very capable elk cartridge and deserves a place on the list. If your max is 400-yards and the deer is moving, perhaps stick to 200-yards. I also shot a Leopard and a Mid Asian Ibex with it. Fine options include the old .264 Win. Kinda like the 243 and 85gr bullet I've used for antlerless deer hunts quite a bit. Dozens of indignant elk hunters sent up a wail when the first elk cartridges article went live on F&Sbecause I hadnt included their .300 RUM favorite. The 264 mag. Let's look at those assumptions a bit closer in the following table. while they work great at closer ranges, they will fail miserably if you want to push your shots out there. Mag. but also launch an elk-capable 120-grain bullet at 3000 fps. I never kept another one in a deer. I shot the Leopard with 140 Partitions but the 120 Barns TTSX is my go to bullet. Used to use the Nosler 140gr partition at 3200+ but have found the Barnes 120gr TSX will out penetrate it. The .270 Win. I was really concerned about the Berger bullets being substantial enough for elk. You might want to consider taking a second rifle as a backup. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Dec 11, 2016 Banned #5 G GKPrice Banned Joined Sep 27, 2014 Messages 2,442 Location Western Oregon awaldro7 said: My personal opinion is the 6.5 because of bullet selection and also the ability to load heavier bullets. Now think about the advanced powders & bullets available to the hunter of today like the Barnes TSX/TTSX. The .264 Winchester Magnum showed up 62 years ago, and the .260 Remington is a quarter-century old. Found one bullet between the skin and opposite shoulder, perfect mushroom but it didnt slow her down much. Maintained energy at each range is 1,813 ft-lbs and 1,319 ft-lbs respectively. Use what you are comfortable with. text-align: center; typically must be handloaded to achieve the above velocity figures. Little things that you may never have noticed can make a shot fail if you are really pushing the limits. You do everything right for an hour and a half, and then you sit down here and there's nothing you can do about it, you made a mistake.". As far as ammo goes, both Winchester and Remington still produce .264 Win. } color: #ffffff; Mag. Short awnser is YES. You should always start low & work up. 3400+ from a 24" Bbl. I grew up hunting with one stoked with 150-grain Partition handloads, and I never had a problem cleanly killing a bull. Mag. . Got a cow a few years back at 330 yards with mine. I have a 264 in a Remington M700 w/stainless barrel ..I hunted Colorado for 40 years with it guiding/packing with and for my rancher friends around Steamboat Springs ..The guys (Rancher ..the daddy and 3 sons) out there loved that 264 ..so much so I just quit carrying it back and forth and just left it with the ranch ..I have not hunted elk now in several years but left the rifle there just keeping a finger in the "game" so to speak ..well a couple of years ago I'm called to their pappy's burial and I go ..at the ranch house after the services the 3 boys get to talking about the 264 ..the shots their dad made with it ..shots they made with it ..they got to doing tally's..laughing and grinning ..I'm sure with some fudge factor ..but their family tally alone was over 100 Mule deer and elk ..not counting my small contribution to the tally. Mag. Far shots start to need a lot of compensation for bullet drop and wind drift to make an ethical shot on a game animal. Bought my first 264 , a Rem 700 in 1964. .tg .th-lmno { have tough rows to hoe since they've been around since the 1960s and haven't exactly caught fire. It still will shoot under an inch. Commissions are earned for links to Brownell's, Amazon, MidwayUSA, GoHunt, OpticsPlanet, Sportsman's Warehouse, and other retailers. Not a ton of extra horsepower or overkill but plenty if things are right. border-color: #656565; I was just reading some old Threads and there is one about a rifle Shawn Carlock built for a lady in 260rem and she took a nice elk at over 600yds with a 140g AMAX. word-break: normal; A new stainless feather weight M70 in 264 will be available this fall. } At magnum velocities, the soft bullets tended to fragment and fail to penetrate adequately. Joseph Von Benedikt shows his custom 500 and how well it shoots. Yes without a problem. If you want to use the 6.5 PRC for elk hunting, the additional couple hundred ft-lbs of kinetic energy the cartridge provides will certainly come in handy. It will go faster, but that's where I'm getting the best groups,. Shot placement, bullet construction, and animal individuality will all dramatically impact the effectiveness of the bullet. Shot opportunities come dear when hunting big bulls on public land, and nothing is better for tricky shot angles than a hard-hitting, deep-driving .338 bullet. Featuring a belt-free, standard-length case with a shoulder sharp enough to provide ultimate capacity and internal efficiency, yet not too steep for slick feeding, it outperforms even the .300 Weatherby Magnumand fits in standard-size bolt actions. The Bigger Question is, whats YOUR maximum? Mag. Add to cart. was an extraordinary cartridge. Top 5 Most Accurate Factory-Loaded Rifle Cartridges, Savage Impulse Straight-Pull Rifle: Full Review, .458 Winchester Magnum History: The Complete Story, 6.8 Western Ammo Options: The Load of Long Yardage, SIG Sauer P365 Pistol Now Offered in .380, Franchi Momentum Elite Bolt-Action Rifle in Varmint Configurations, Savage Model 110 Timberline 6.5 Creedmoor Rifle: Full Review, Shaw Precision Guns (a division of E.R. For this experiment, well look at three common ways to determine effectiveness. It almost equals the .300 Ultra Mag, and does it with a whole lot less gunpowder. Yes, the .264 Winchester Magnum is A GOOD CHOICE for elk hunting, under average conditions, from a mid-range distance, with a medium grain expanding bullet, and with correct shot placement. But, if you arent able to get things perfectly lined up for just long enough to pull the trigger and follow through a smidge, let it go. Mag. I've never heard a bad thing about this caliber. It was my choice when I drew a limited entry Utah tag and dropped a 402 B&C gross (official) non-typical with one 180-grain Federal TBT. The three sometimes neglected variables are the human factor, the weather factor, and the fact that you are shooting at a wild animal, not a stationary target. font-family: Arial, sans-serif; Bozeman, Montana. overflow: hidden; 264 Winchester Magnum / Specifications: Mag., 6.5 Weatherby RPM, 6.5-300 Wby. But, because elk have big antlers and big bodies, some hunters believe it takes an even bigger bullet to kill them. Its plenty gun for elk. Subscriber Services. SOG FLING THROWING KNIVES PARACORD HANDLE 3pk. Maintained energy is 1,383 ft-lbs at 500 yards and 880 ft-lbs at 800. We have a variety of deals on Rifle Ammo, Handgun Ammo, Shotgun Ammo & Rimfire Ammo, as well as ammo for target practice, plinking, hunting, or shooting competitions. Is this round (bullet) sufficient for Elk? and 264 Win. mag . background-color: #333333; } Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Ik heb dit aan de verhuurder laten weten met de mededeling dat ik de eerstvolgende maand 150 minder huur zou betalen. Mag. T. tw264 OP. Re: 264 Win Mag If you go with 264, then load it like a magnum, that is the whole purpose of having a 264 magnum. Its plenty gun for elk. True. As with anything, the devil is in the details. Went down so fast I didn't see it go down - and there ain't a lot of recoil there! In purely practical terms, no elk cartridge equals the beautifully balanced .300 Win. And the bigger they get, the tougher they become. I mentioned that a bullet may not perform well under 2,000 fps. The 6.5 Creedmoor is no dragon slayer. Pick a Marlin M1895 or a Winchester Model 1886 and hunt happy in the knowledge that youve got bull-thumping wallop in every thumb-sized cartridge. The rifle is a 700 bdl high gloss with a green laminated stock, it is a sexy bitch. Never ever shoot more than two shots with out a cool down. Lightweight, lightly-constructed .25-cal. 0 gr. Would I do it again..? That's faster than a 130-grain projectile out of the .270 Winchester, giving .264 Win. Mag. Meaning I would tuck that bullet real deep into the front quarter rather than the outlook I had of staying to the outskirts of the front shoulder to not waste any meat. Just use a bullet that holds together and will dig deep with the .264 and enjoy the hunt. border-collapse: collapse; Custom Mossberg 500 at the Range and Live Turkey!? Mag. Shot placement is the key. i bet we could spin some yarns around a bottle of the appropriate fermented beverage. AJ. In essence, good elk cartridges drive tough, heavy bullets of healthy diameter, and drive em fast. When we hunted Elk and Mulies in CO I carried my M77 in 270 W. I can/could shoot 3/4" with my reloads so I figured that was the rifle to carry. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. .tg .tg-4q2i { . bulletswith most weighing between 75 and 85 grs.purpose-built for varmint and predator hunting are widely available, though rapid throat erosion and the cumulative effect of felt recoil preclude the 257's use on a prairie dog town. I run a 1:7.5" for the 156 in two rifles, and they are accurate as heck a LONG ways out there. A common thread you may encounter in online forums is anecdote after anecdote of large animals being brought down by small caliber bullets, or small animals surviving large caliber bullets. Are You blued steel, 1 inch & fine wood or are you Kevlar, carbon, stainless, 30-34mm?. A good marksman will not squeeze the trigger unless he believes it will work. .264 Winchester Magnum, 26 Nosler, or 6.5-300 Weatherby. 264 would be very close to your 280 you already have. is still the more versatile cartridge; however, it is, and always has been, a jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none kind of round, while the .264 Win. padding: 10px 5px; The Great Debate: What is Your Favorite Caliber? I have used the 7x57 160gr X bullet for a one shot kill on a cape buff at 142 paces but doubt it would open up much at 500 yards going 1375fps. The number on the chart below is the distance in yards at which this standard is no longer met. We have an article on Backfire that goes a bit deeper into long-range hunting cartridges and bullet selection. Built into a titanium short action with a 20-inch Proof Research carbon fiber barrel and a McMillan Edge stock, it will weigh under six. Who knew wild turkey's were so stupid!? shares the same case as the 7mm Rem. Partitions, AccuBond or Barnes, all good bullets. That doesnt mean I should take a shot that far. Mag., and it really comes into its own with carefully developed high-performance handloads. This is usually about 1,900fps with most bullet designs. Articles may contain affiliate links which enable us to share in the revenue of any purchases made. Bullet placement is everything. Mag. "A real death ray" he said. Offering heavier bullets, greater terminal energy, more frontal diameter, and a vast selection of projectiles suitable for handloading courtesy of its 7mm military cartridge predecessors, all at a price of only a bit more recoil and a little lost velocity, the "Seven Mag" became a cartridge in every American hunter's vocabulary, while the excellent .264 Win. See the handy tear-out on page 54 for more details. He dropped in his tracks, then stood back up facing away. The .264 Win. Run what ya brung! Before there were scopes or red dots there were iron sights. Mag. A World Record Attempt and everyone is out at the range shooting and practicing. Not my ideal, but my minimum. Nosler 160-grain AccuBond 7mm Remington Magnum SEE IT Specs: Bullet Weight: 175 grs. However if a bullet must break bones and penatrate at an angle I have learned only a few bullets have the capability to preform CONSISTANTLY. We offer cheap ammo and bulk ammo deals on the most popular ammo calibers. Ive taken as many bull elk with the .300 Win. Shooting an elk with one, however, is about like shooting a gopher with a .30/06. Shot him thru the neck at 175 years and down he went. Mine likes the 142's and RL 33. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Recoil is brisk, and barrel life will likely be short. He is a well-known entrepreneur, having started many successful online brands, and lives in St George, Utah. Final analysis: Its not for everyone, but when you want to drive tough, heavy .30-caliber bullets fast, its awesome. slipped quietly into near-obsoletion. For elk, pick a really tough bullet and if possible, pick broadside shots. I guess I should have worded my post better. A tough deep penetrating bullet properly placed will always bring an elk down. Taurus has redesigned this sporting pistol for performance. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. He averaged 1 1/2 shots per animal. Bullet went in front of the close shoulder, hit the heart/lungs, and than hit the ball joint in the off side shoulder and shattered it. Whether you prefer the 6.5CM/260 Rem, to 26 Nosler the 6.5 is showing it self to be an outstanding cal.capable of taking mice to heavy game just by changing the bullet. This is a grand-old cartridge based on the .308 Winchester, but it is loaded with a .358-caliber bullet. cannot measure up to the .338 Win. font-size: 14px; Would be a great project rifle to put a proper barrel on. To my mind the .300s and .338s make better elk and zebra . Just like the title says is it a good choice. background-color: #efefef; A lightweight .300 Win. All three are excellent choices for long-range hunting ammo.. mag well now I have 2 both in pre-64 model 70 Winchesters ! You are using an out of date browser. The retained weight will be higher than the jacketed bullet, thus during the impact will act like a heavier bullet than the 140g. font-size: 14px; font-size: 18px; Mag. For this reason, I can certainly understand why somebody would want to hunt with a 6.5 PRC, especially if that person didn't . border-color: black; word-break: normal; For deer, sheep, antelope I think it would be a sweet rifle-little argument there-however heard mixed info on its adequacy for elk inside of 500 yards. The 264 mag with one of the ultra slow powders will drive the Barnes 120gr TSX at 3450 to 3500fps from a 26" Bbl. No doubt the .264 is a capable elk cartridge, just not widely used; backing up my original assertion. Another good choice is the 140gr Berger hybrids. Shot my first elk in 1972 with a Winchester Model 70 in 264 mag never took another step. Over 30 ft-lbs - Massive recoil that can be difficult for even seasoned shooters to shoot accurately. I know there are better bigger options but this is my rifle I am most familiar with. This phenonemon is known as drag or air resistance. With the right bullet, the .338 RCM is good all the way from 500 yards down to thick-timber distances. Joseph Von Benedikt is with Rafe Nielsen of Browning to take a look at a new X-Bolt series rifle. What I have read seems impressive. It is not a .35 Whelen. | Second shot entered the right ham and through the 'near' shoulder. Mag. The .264 Winchester Magnum is a 6.5mm cartridge that was ahead of its time when created in 1958. For big game hunting precise shot placement is critical no matter the cartridge, and its damn hard to place a shot precisely when you know youre going to get smacked hard enough to loosen your teeth and knock out your boogers. Look to something that fires a 7mm or bigger heavy-for-caliber projectile at around 3,000 fps. 6.5 CM, 260, 6.5 PRC, 6.5 SAUM yours, all have killed elk. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. 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